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Hey there, just bought a second factory saiga-12 about a month ago, and am looking to convert this shotgun to a groza/groza-clone platform.If you're not familiar with groza, these pics:. FYIpookieweb.hcpookie is a member here and at a lot of other AK forums.Think I should PM him about this? I really like the look of the buttplate and elevated sight more than anything else I've seen in the AK bullpup catagory.Contenders based on appearance would be. Bullpup designs are mechanically more complex, requiring a long trigger linkage, and control system linkages. This seriously degrades both control feel, and reliability, and increases bulk and weight.i understand that when compared to an AR15 match rifle, most bullpup triggers are a bit stiff and mushy.

But guess what? Those are usually military weapons, and the type of trigger an AR15 has is usually the exception, not the rule.still, many bullpup triggers are quite good (see south african and israeli bullpups) while others include special features (the belgian P90 has a stepped trigger, allowing easy single shots with a light pull and full auto if you pull it in all the way).the bullpup triggers are obviously no problem for military use, if you how many countries are moving to pullpup designs for their army. Mag changes on a bullpup are much slower because they require more repositioning, and are difficult to see (if necessary) without fully dismounting the rifle.- A conventional rifle allows you to see your mag changes, and is more easily maneuvered with your dominant hand, which makes mag changes easier in general. More importantly a human being can naturally bring their hands together in the dark. Magazine wells should ALWAYS be either in your dominant hand, or just in front of it, because it is far more difficult to manipulate anything dextrously that is located behind your dominant hand.reloads are a matter of doctrine and training.just like martial arts and so on are a matter of training correct muscle memory and reactions, the same is true for bullpups.give a austrian grunt an AR15 and i guarantee you that his reload will be slower than with his AUG.it's a matter of training. Because of the positioning of the mag, bullpups can be difficult, or impossiple to fire while prone (though this is common with some other rifle designs as well).
Note in the pictures below, the magazine is by far the lowets point of the rifle, and being located behind the dominant hand, it will tend to strike the ground forcing the muzzle downward. This also causes problems with mags being warped or ripped out of the magwell, or the rifle itself being ripped out of the users hand when hitting the deck; that a conventional rifle doesnt have (the muzzle will just bounce up)this is hardly a problem, unless you're going to hit the deck with an AUG and a 42 round magazine. Bullpups are naturally balanced in a non-instinctive way; the balance point on most bullpups is in between your hand and your shoulder when mounted. The only way to correct this is to put heavy things in front of your dominant hand, or to make the weapon short and light enough that this wont make a difference (and even then it will still be more awkward and less instinctive to point).
This will tend to make a bullpup shift unless it is tightly mounted to your shoulder, and especially will tend to shift during rapid fire. This tendedncy is somewhat countered by the position of your support hand so far forward on the barrel, but not sufficiantly so.- A conventional rifle is balanced in between your dominant and support hands; and there're reasons for that.
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A human being natually handles things better that balance in the palm, or in front of it.an AR15 is pretty well balanced, but today with all the tacticool stuff they put on it, it is very front heavy. Do that to a bullpup and you've suddenly got a better balanced weapon.so this is not an issue in military weapons. Keep in mind that minimum overall shotgun length must be 26 inches or longer, otherwise it may be considered a Short Barrel Shotgun (SBS Class III?)'In addition, some firearm types that would normally be considered to fall into the Short Barrel Shotgun (SBS) category are not legally considered to be a SBS. A shotgun is legally defined as a shoulder mounted firearm that fires shot. Shotguns and shotgun receivers that have never had a buttstock of any type installed are not shotguns, as they cannot be shoulder mounted. Therefore, cutting one of these below the 18' barrel and/or 26' overall length cannot produce a SBS as the firearm was never a shotgun.
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, & Explosives recognizes these firearms as being a smooth bore handgun which is an Any Other Weapon (AOW). Unlike a SBS, an AOW only carries a $5.00 tax and can be moved interstate without Federal approval. However, to maintain its AOW status, one may generally not have a buttstock (making it a SBS) or a rifled slug barrel (making it a Destructive Device (DD); a handgun with a bore over 0.5'). Both SBS and DD weapons require a $200.00 transfer tax and prior Federal approval to transport interstate.' Wikipedia-on Legal shotgun barrel length.